RE: Had enough of this

["Yelich, Scott D." <syelich@commerzbank-usa.com>]

I agree 100%.  RTFM with reference to the specific FM is perfectly acceptable,
and in fact, I do RTFM in that case.  If I have to go go check out the latest cvs
of TFM, I probably won't.

I also tend to like wikis.  Twiki (which I use inhouse at work, where we (er, *I*),
can't seem to get openldap to work (fully integrated) is used to document my
attempts and what does work, etc.  If we had one page online, it could forward to
other howtos, etc, but at least there could be a single point of reference for 
people to start with.  I've tried the various howtos - and they aren't sufficient.

I'm now simply lurking on this list dredging for when something like a twiki is
implemented so I can try again.  Twikis live and die with an active community
and this list certain has the more than the required expertise to answer any
question and make a twiki system extremely successful.

Scott
ps: I need all three.  It's not clear what to add.  ie: how fast can someone
who doesn't already know the answer find the schema names for common
unix/solaris data types (ie: groups, netgroups, etc.  Are those caps
significant? etc).


-----Original Message-----
From: Medievalist [mailto:ldap@hbcs.org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:52 AM
To: openldap-software@OpenLDAP.org
Subject: Re: Had enough of this

Ace, I appreciate your posts, even though you are only slightly more
knowledgeable about LDAP than I am.  You often start discussions with OpenLDAP
users and developers that reveal functions I didn't know about, or
misunderstandings that I didn't realize I had.

I like Howard Chu's posts, too.  When Howard says "RTFM" he gives a pointer to
the FM; his brevity is not insulting, it's efficient.  I don't know if his
fiddle chops are any good, though, so I'll have to buy a CD and find out :). 
Some other people's RTFM posts I find less delightful.

If all the effort that was put into the dozens of "unofficial" OpenLDAP howtos
on the net had been co-ordinated, in a TWiki (http://www.twiki.org) or in the
fashion that you yourself proposed, the OpenLDAP documentation would probably
be superb.  Recent efforts in the FAQ-O-Matic are *much* appreciated (thank you
guys!) but a FAQ doesn't help with "seldomly asked questions".

The fact that the nss_ldap and pam_ldap documentation is light-years worse than
the OpenLDAP doco doesn't help either.  Most people need all three to work...

--Charlie

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