RE: Have you seen this FUD - IT pros suffer OpenLDAP configuration headaches ?

["Paul B. Henson" <henson@acm.org>]

> From: Mike Jackson
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:44 PM
>
> Herein lies the problem: your sense of entitlement - your sense of
> entitlement to receive an answer simply because you asked someone a
> question.

Hmm, I'm not sure how continuing to engage in a discussion in which two people are involved demonstrates a sense of entitlement? I don't believe I have sent a single post on this thread that was not in response to someone else's post. Am I mistaken? Perhaps you could point one out? If no one replied to me, I'd stop posting. Clearly, as people continue to reply, they are interested in continuing the discussion. I'm not demanding an answer, I'm simply saying that if you're going to take the trouble to keep replying to the conversation, why not answer the actual question rather than continuously going off on tangents and insulting people?

> And the reason that you want that answer is so you can use
> it for the next step in whatever scheme your small little mind is
> trying to concoct.

I believe you overestimate the deviousness of my "small little" mind.

> You, personally, can not win an argument with Howard. He's far more
> intelligent than you, his grasp on technology light years ahead of
> your own and his ability to funnel an argument down to a conclusion
> puts yours to shame.

Well, I definitely concede his superiority in the department of spewing insults, making irrelevant demeaning comments, and most certainly in posting pictures of grumpy cats with snappy slogans. But personally, I find a technical argument much more compelling when it is not interwoven with baseless accusations and judgments, and turns of phrase that would be much more suitable in a kindergarten playground confrontation.

Do you enjoy making conclusions about others peoples abilities and skill sets with no evidence to back them up? When combined with your obvious pleasure in telling boastful stories of your own abilities and accomplishments, it makes one wonder if they might be signs of some type of self-confidence disorder. Perhaps you should see someone about that?

> Still, you continue to walk around the orchard
> where there is clearly no fruit available - wandering around looking
> for fruit to appear just because you want some.

Actually, it's more like flipping the channels on late-night TV and accidentally tuning in the Jerry Springer show. It's a guilty pleasure to be sure, but watching people make train wrecks of themselves in wild agitation is such schadenfreude. Yelling, screaming, insulting; if we happened to be speaking in person, would you be the guy that starts throwing chairs around?

> I've been going the rounds with my youngest daughter to ensure that
> she actually gets past this same thing as just one of the things she
> needs to do in order to leave her childhood selfishness behind, reach
> emotional maturity and become an adult.

If you're going to use this thread as a learning experience for your daughter, be sure to include the parts where it is rude to be vain and boastful, that all human beings deserve to be treated with some level of common courtesy and not insulted for no cause, and maybe not to judge people you don't actually know? God willing, perhaps she will grow up to be kinder and less egotistical than you've shown yourself to be.

> Netscape code already had dynamic configuration more than 15 years ago
> as a result of having DISA as one of their main customers should
> demonstrate to you that it's actually a feature that was needed by
> organizations with a very large userbase. Those requirements are even

I'm going to have to agree with Michael on your reading comprehension skills, as my input in this thread clearly demonstrates I agreed that dynamic configuration is important and an excellent feature. Perhaps if you go and reread it a couple more times, you will understand that all I ever said was that it would be possible to have a flat text configuration file interface to dynamic configuration. It seems you continue to make the mistake upon which I first called you out, confusing the feature (dynamic configuration) with the implementation (LDIF over an LDAP interface).

> Finally, if you don't like the way the project is going then do a git
> clone and stab yourself repeatedly in the eye with your own fork.
> Darwinism in action, and all that.

Does your daughter tell her friends on the playground that they should go stab themselves in the eye with a fork? Cause you know, saying things like that is a sign of a lack of emotional maturity. Would you show this thread to your daughter and take pride in it, and tell her "Hey, look at me! I told some guy I don't even know to stab himself in the eye with a fork! That showed him!"

> The summary here is that far greater minds than yours have already
> considered the problems at hand and taken appropriate action to solve
> them.

I get the feeling there are many many far greater minds than yours. But please do continue to respond, as sometimes after the chair throwing there is the shirt ripping off of and chest beating.

> And the fact that you mistake ruthless
> pragmatism for simple arrogance leaves you out of that club.

I've got no issue with pragmatism, but while ruthless might indeed describe this thread, pragmatism does not â when considering the rude insults, baseless judgments, and name-calling that seem to have outweighed any technical merit, I think it would be more appropriate to pair ruthless with bully.