RE: BDB recovery after power outage

[Frank Swasey <Frank.Swasey@uvm.edu>]

On Apr 21 at 5:11pm, Howard Chu wrote:

> "Open Source" is not the same as "charity." The content distributed by the
> OpenLDAP project got in there because someone was motivated enough to write
> it. It wasn't one particular person, it was whoever in the community wanted
> it badly enough. This is what "community-developed software" means - everyone
> participates, it's not up to one single person.

"charity" is NOT asking someone who knows a subject to point out the 
important points.  No one here has said they are unwilling to do work.  
What seems (to me) to be happening is that the people who have the 
knowledge seem to expect someone else to document it for them.  I'm 
willing to write documentation.  I lack the depth of knowledge I 
personally feel is required to do it well.  But the hell with it, I'll 
do it (as I just wrote to Quannah) and at least we'll have something.  
Maybe the people who do have the knowledge can be bothered to take the 
time to improve on what I come up with.

> Time and time again people ask "can you please add this to the FAQ" or "can
> you please add X to Y." The standard answer is "the FAQ is interactive - if
> you think an answer belongs in it, add it." If you think something needs to
> be changed in the distribution, file an ITS. If you expect to be able to just
> wish for it and have it magically get done, you're in the wrong place. Things
> get done when you make them get done. Complaining on the -software list does
> not count as a mechanism for getting things done.

Let's be clear here.  Are you saying "post it to the ITS, do it 
yourself, or shut up" (that's probably blunter than you intended, but I 
want to make sure I understand what you are saying) ???

> I try very hard not to be blatant about advertising in this forum, but as
> Igor pointed out, you can always pay someone to get your problem fixed, if
> you can't do it yourself. Given my extensive experience with this project and
> all of its associated software, and given the fact that I need to make a
> living, I of course believe you should be hiring my company, but that choice
> is up to you.

Howard, I have no true knowledge of what you or your company does.  I 
have seen you post about versions of OpenLDAP and friends for Solaris 
before.

I can't pay for anything.  I'm not the one that controls the purse 
strings.  Now, when I find that money tree, then this all becomes play 
and I'm going to go read every word of all the documentation in the 
world three or four times just for the fun of it, until then, I'll keep 
doing what I'm doing.  At least I'm moving forward.  They haven't 
managed to get Microsoft AD in here to replace our Kerberos/LDAP 
environment yet... although they're still trying, we just started a four 
week "freebie" from Microsoft to design an AD setup for us (I love my 
management....).

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