We're having some weirdness with our pine 4.30. We have it authenticating through the ldap database, and it seems that when you do an expunge, the headers on the messages that stay get changed. I know this seems like an odd problem, but I was wondering if anyone else had run into it. We're using the maildir format for our messages. Charlie Pauch System Administrator WRKCS.net cpauch@wrkcs.net